Self Leadership: What’s Inside Gets Reflected Outside

I was recently interviewed by a longtime friend and college classmate Rob Kalwarowsky. Like me, Rob transitioned out of his first career after MIT - engineering - into leadership coaching, while I became a psychotherapist. In this discussion, we reflect on our own and each other’s personal journeys through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) - an experiential approach Rob and I are both passionate about. I also discuss the interactions between people’s internal worlds/systems and their external worlds. In particular, people in positions of power and leadership tend to have their internal systems reflected into their external systems, such as workplaces, families, and other social organizations. Given this reality, it is critical that people in positions of leadership work on themselves and move towards a place of “Self leadership.”

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